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Drakken Breathes Fire · Mar 04, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by Avarre

So you're essentially the equivalent of an RA player commenting on the quality of GvG.

Care to give any reasoning on why one of the most balanced games ever, with some of the most tactical depth, is 'the worst RTS'?

I'm curious to know that myself.
I for one would like to point out that I fancy myself pretty good at Guild Wars.
(Not among the best but good enough.) I'm a total newb at star craft, due to the pure balance and skill involved to play and play well. Single player story line is SUICIDE without the cheats or a significant amount of skill at micro management. A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT MORE than other games, let alone others of it's class.

As for WH40k, they stole half of their creature designs FROM Star Craft, so how's that taste? The Tau? blatant copy of the Protoss, from their blue skin to the default colour scheme of their armor//ships. (They even have the ponytails for cryin' out loud!) Tyranids? Please.. if I have to point that one out, I'll hang myself. Chaos? Nurgle? Any resemblance to plague marines in Star Craft once again? How about the Bikes and Vultures? Imperial Guard?
You could go on forever.

But what do we know right? Starcrafts only a decade old, and still played today regularily. Almost ALL of Blizzards titles has the same longevity.

Even WoW will be around forever because the game appeals to an audience as training wheels for new gamers.

Bryant Again · Mar 04, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by Drakken Breathes Fire

As for WH40k, they stole half of their creature designs FROM Star Craft, so how's that taste?

Warhammer 40k came way before the SC universe. To toss it back, many people have argued about how much Warcraft stole from the original Warhammer series. Warcraft: Orcs and Humans was originally supposed to be a Warhammer strategy game, but Blizzard decided to go on and do their own thing.

And yes, the Tau were created for tabletop three years after SC was released. Even if it was considered a "rip-off" (I can only think of like two similarities) I'd think it's warranted.

Thorondor Port · Mar 04, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by Spike

There are FAR FAR better rts's out there than starcrap. Sup Com for starters beats it in every way shape and form.

couldnt even beat singleplayer huh?

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

SC is possibly the most competitive online game of all time. With perhaps CS as its competitor

I would agree 100%.

This whole thread seems to be in two groups: those who sucked at starcraft, and those that could actually make it past a 2v2 computer match. Get out noobs, let me praise this game.

Snow Bunny · Mar 04, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Plus, the Diplomacy/WW2 maps are sooooo fun

ConstantineReznor · Mar 04, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Better believe it. I know some friends that still play Starcraft and Counter-Strike. Just when you think these games are dead by now...

Snow Bunny · Mar 04, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by ConstantineReznor

Better believe it. I know some friends that still play Starcraft and Counter-Strike. Just when you think these games are dead by now...

I play SC for 1-2 hours a night late if I feel like gaming. If I play GW at all it's a miracle. And watching Flash destroy Stork simply makes me want to play more.

ConstantineReznor · Mar 04, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

I play SC for 1-2 hours a night late if I feel like gaming. If I play GW at all it's a miracle. And watching Flash destroy Stork simply makes me want to play more.

lol, I know that feeling when something makes you want to do it more. I'm actually thinking about getting back to GW. I haven't played this game since last summer I believe.

Dante the Warlord · Mar 05, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

To think... people actually still play this game.

Have you ever played Starcraft?

Wait for people to say that about GW1

Starcraft sounds fun and seems to be a casual friendly game, i haven't played it but i may play SC2.

Drakken Breathes Fire · Mar 05, 2008, 01:01 PM // 13:01

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

Wait for people to say that about GW1

Starcraft sounds fun and seems to be a casual friendly game, i haven't played it but i may play SC2.

Unless GW2 is a total flop, they're never going to.
Guild Wars hasn't been around for a decade and they're already making a sequel.

Avarre · Mar 05, 2008, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

I play SC for 1-2 hours a night late if I feel like gaming. If I play GW at all it's a miracle. And watching Flash destroy Stork simply makes me want to play more.

As soon as I get on holiday (next week) I'll bring my best Protoss game right to your FACE.

llsektorll · Mar 05, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Spike

So what if I am it does not change the fact that starcrap is one worst if not the worst RTS's I ever played. Even TA which came out before it was SO much better.

haha so true.... i got so bored I didn't even want to play brood wars....

if you want a real RTS play Rise of Nations or with a more futuristic twist play.... Sins of the Solar Empire.

Bryant Again · Mar 05, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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Originally Posted by Spike

I love it when delusional fan boys pull stats out of thier ass and then pretend thier facts. For starters I doubt ANYONE in north korea plays starcrap and I very much doubt that 10% of south koreans plays starcrap let alone all of them PLUS 10 milllion other people. I would'nt think there are 1 million players world wide let alone ten times that not includeing korea. But then why let facts get in the way of try to makeing starcrap look good. Damm delusional blizzard fan boys. If blizzard EVER make an original game thats any good I will be happy to say so. Until them I will call whats crap crap.

I think it's very interesting that you attempt to call out Blizzard on so many occasions and provide little to no evidence, just like what you did here (and failed miserably.) You're pretty funny, though, so I can't really complain.

Snow Bunny · Mar 05, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

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Originally Posted by Spike

I love it when delusional fan boys pull stats out of thier ass and then pretend thier facts. For starters I doubt ANYONE in north korea plays starcrap and I very much doubt that 10% of south koreans plays starcrap let alone all of them PLUS 10 milllion other people. I would'nt think there are 1 million players world wide let alone ten times that not includeing korea. But then why let facts get in the way of try to makeing starcrap look good. Damm delusional blizzard fan boys. If blizzard EVER make an original game thats any good I will be happy to say so. Until them I will call whats crap crap.

Blizzard makes excellent products.

There's a reason people still play Diablo II, Starcraft, Warcraft III, and WoW.

Starcraft simply has excellent tactical depth, easy controls, intuitive gameplay, etc. I'm as much of a fanboy for Blizzard as I am for Square-Enix, who makes the most fantastic RPGs I have ever played (Final Fantasy)

I simply admire good marketing and sound development and game maintenance.

ANet has not had good marketing nor maintenance. I like their game, but it does not have the longevity of a game like starcraft, which is truly balanced to an insane extent.

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Originally Posted by Avarre

As soon as I get on holiday (next week) I'll bring my best Protoss game right to your FACE.

I've always been a Guardian/Hydra player, but after watching Stork vs. Flash, I'm trying to get into Terrrans. Vultures are really good against zealots. I'll tear you apart though

Dronte · Mar 05, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Played like 5 mins then it became boring and I simply didnt like it (yea, I do like strategic games but not this one).

Akuma · Mar 05, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Anyone who says TA/SupCom are better than Starcraft are the sort of people who shift-click on a unit about 500 times and then roll across the map. Not much strategy in massing units.

Darkhell153 · Mar 05, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

I don't play starcraft, I play guild wars, nwn1, and dungeon lords. Other then that I'm focused on anime and school...starcraft never really interested me.

Stalker Haras · Mar 05, 2008, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by Spike

I guess trying to control more then 3 units at a time is to much for you. Anyone who says starcrap is better than TA/Supcom has NO idea what a real time STRATGEY game is. Its not zerg rushing thats for sure.

"Zerg Rush" usually involves more then "3 units".
It's more of a challenge when you only have a specific amount of units you can send at a time, and not a whole ton load.

When I play, well now-a-days, I just play custom maps that I downloaded from games. Usually do 1vs7Comps for fun, simply just waiting for Starcraft 2.

Online, back in the day I held the #1 ladder rank for a month, then went back to more UMS.
For ladder matches, I use Terran, for anything els. Protoss.

Snow Bunny · Mar 06, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25

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Originally Posted by Spike

Actually I proved that blizzard does NOT have the x million players claimed useing ITS OWN finance records. But then when dealing will delusional fan boys like your self. Facts only matter when thier on YOUR side. So why provided any more evidence when you will only ingore it anyway. So it was YOU who failed and and failed miserably. But then again your fanboys can't take it and pretend it never happend.

Oh and snow bunny blizzard have yet to produce a game that has any of things you mentioned so please get a life.

A. Your spelling sucks. Quite badly. I doubt you can prove that Blizzard's financial records are tweaked when your post is poorly written.

B. I was being polite (odd, I know, isn't it?) and straightforward in my last post. So don't flame me for anything I didn't do.

C. Blizzard makes better products. They're not the most original, but they take good stuff and make it great. That's what Shakespeare did.

Please Spike, if you want the cold, hard facts, GW is a shit game in comparison to Starcraft and that's all there is to it. The sales and longevity of Starcraft in comparison to GW says that much.

Bryant Again · Mar 06, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by Spike

Actually I proved that blizzard does NOT have the x million players claimed useing ITS OWN finance records.

You didn't, because I responded to that, as well.

AidinSwiftarrow · Mar 06, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Never played...Favorite RTS is LotR: Battle For Middle Earth 2 and the expansion

It's realllllllllllly fun, worth the money.